“Red or black?” was a dangerous question, even now. Since the days of Aegon the Conquerer, the arms of House Targaryen had borne a three-headed dragon, red on black. Daemon the Pretender had reversed those colors on his own banners, as many bastards did. – The Sworn Sword
Which houses fought for which side during the First Blackfyre Rebellion? Red dragon or black?
Though the war engulfed much of the Seven Kingdoms, we are left guessing as to who fought for whom in many cases. We’ve hunted for every last clue we could, inferred, deduced… and when we had no better option, we made educated guesses. So many of these should not be taken as certain. An unusually pious, honorable, greedy or ambitious Lord could easily change the scope of our guess, so keep that in mind.
Thanks to Jim McGeehin (SomethingLikeALawyer from the Wars & Politics of Ice and Fire) Steven Attewell (Race for the Iron Throne) and Rhaenys Targaryen (top ASOIAF Wiki contributor & Queen of Timelines). This post is intended as a companion piece for our Blackfyre Rebellions coverage, most notably “The Battle of Redgrass Field” which was released on October 31st, 2015.
We’ll go through this region by region. If you don’t see your favorite house listed, let us know and we’ll add it!
First off, the North and the Iron Islands seemed to have not been involved at all. The Redgrass field episode will go into greater detail as to why…
The Vale
For King Daeron II Targaryen:
- Arryn
- Templeton
- Waynwood
- Corbray
These banners were all seen at the Redgrass Field, save Corbray. Lord Donnel Arryn led the vanguard. Ser Gwayne Corbray of the Kingsguard fought an epic duel with Daemon Blackfyre himself, making it highly likely the Corbrays in general stayed loyal.
For Daemon Blackfyre:
- Sunderland
- Royce?
There is no hard evidence suggesting House Royce fought for Daemon Blackfyre. Their house has a history of stubborn loyalty, which is possible strike against this idea. However, we know there was hard fighting in the Vale, yet so many of the major houses are named and none are Rebels. It is hard to imagine the Sunderlands (and the Three Sisters) being such a major problem on their own. The Three Sisters are islands, but not wealthy or populous. There had to be someone powerful in the Vale fighting for the Black Dragon. The bronze-armored Royces (as you’ll see in an upcoming episode on them) like tradition and the old way of doing things. King Daeron the Good represented change.
Since House Royce has had major issues with House Arryn in the past, and are proud and ancient besides, perhaps they saw a chance to topple House Arryn from the top spot and become Lords Paramount of the Vale. It could be seen as finally taking revenge on the House that removed them from the top spot in the Vale so long ago. The House that took their ancient bronze crown for good and all.
Notable Unknown:
- Belmore
- Grafton (Gulltown)
- Arryn of Gulltown
- Hardyng
- Hunter
- Redfort
The Redforts, also proud of their First Men heritage, have close ties & proximity to the Royces, it’s not unlikely the fought on the same side. The Arryns of Gulltown may have sought an opportunity to supplant the Lordly Arryns of the Eyrie, or supported their cousins honorably.
The Westerlands
For King Daeron II Targaryen:
- Lannister
- Brax
- Kyndall
- Lefford
- Plumm
Lord Damon Lannister, the Grey Lion, is specifically mentioned as a loyalist. His wife was a lady of House Brax, and his son and heir’s wife was married to a lady of House Kyndall, so both are presumed loyalists. Princess Elaena Targaryen’s marriage to Ossifer Plumm, though short lived, may indicate loyalist leanings.
For Daemon Blackfyre:
- Reyne
- Crakehall
The famous knight Ser Robb Reyne fought for Daemon Blackfyre. It’s possible House Reyne was divided, but we prefer to guess that they were fully Black. Likewise, the famous knight Redtusk fought for Daemon. There are very few houses in Westeros that feature an animal with a tusk. The boar of Crakehall is the most notable. That Daemon had major support in the West helps back this theory.
Fought on both sides:
- Tarbeck
Not unlike the Swanns in the War of Five Kings, or the Hightowers in… well, several wars, House Tarbeck sent men to fight for both the Red and Black Dragon.
Notable Unknown:
- Marbrand
- Greenfield
- Farman
- Payne
- Prester
- Sarsfield
- Swyft
- Westerling
The Westerlings used to be powerful and highly-regarded. So much so that King Maegor took a certain Jeyne Westerling to wife. That didn’t go so great for Jeyne, and as we know from Robb Stark’s experience, the Westerlings are now poor. The Red Wedding was a way for them to climb back up the ladder. But what caused them to be destitute in the first place? Perhaps they fought on the wrong side of a major rebellion and were punished for it afterwards. It probably wasn’t Robert’s Rebellion, since Tywin sat on the sidelines. So *obviously* it is Daemon Blackfyre’s fault that the Red Wedding happened. House Marbrand’s close ties to House Lannister (and proximity) makes them highly likely to be loyalist. House Farman, which sits on an island, could’ve remained neutral, especially if they feared what the nearby Ironborn might do during the chaos.
The Riverlands
For King Daeron II Targaryen:
- Tully
- Blackwood
- Smallwood
For Daemon Blackfyre:
- Bracken
- Shawney
- Nayland
- Heddle
- Paege
- Frey
House Bracken is Bittersteel’s house, and we know that Lord Bracken went overseas to hire sellswords for Daemon. Masha Heddle ran the Inn at the Crossroads, where Catelyn Stark had Tyrion arrested… and Black Tom Heddle is her ancestor. Black Tom was a Blackfyre supporter, and one wonders if the Heddles had land and title that was taken from them after being on the wrong side of the First rebellion.
It’s easy to miss that Lord Walder Frey was born before the Second Blackfyre Rebellion, which saw his father join only to back out just before things got nasty. Perhaps this is where Lord Walder eventually learned to delay supporting a side until seeing who is going to win. It is not known if the Freys played a role in the First Rebellion, but their presence in the Second might be a clue. Nayland and Paege are similar cases.
Also:
- Butterwell
- Lothston
Lord Butterwell was Hand of the King to Daeron II and did such a poor job at managing the rebellion that he was fired and accused of sympathizing with Daemon.
Lord Manfred Lothston, aka Manfred of the Black Hood, betrayed Daemon in some unknown fashion. He may have been expected to use his men to delay the Vale army that eventually got in Daemon’s way as his host headed for King’s Landing. Interestingly, Manfred himself may have been another bastard of King Aegon IV.
Notable Unknown:
- Mallister
- Vance
- Darry
- Mooton
- Piper
As owners of a decent sized port, House Mooton of Maidenpool would be valuable to both sides, but particularly Daemon as he had less presence on the east coast. But we have no clue which side they took, if any.
House Darry is noted for it’s staunch loyalty to the Targaryens over the years, so we would guess they fought for Daeron II.
Stormlands
For King Daeron II:
- Penrose
- Dondarrion
- Wylde
Prince Aerys (later King Aerys I) was brother to King Daeron II, was married to Aelinor Penrose (a cousin). The sons of Lady Penrose, save one, were slain by Fireball during the crossing of the Mander.
House Dondarrion, as a marcher house, would be expected to fight for Daemon Blackfyre. But Daeron II foresaw this danger long in advance and wedded his heir Baelor Breakspear to Lady Jena Dondarrion, assuring their loyalty.
House Wylde had a knight named Ser William in King Daeron’s Kingsguard either before or after the war. In any case, it’s unlikely a house that fought for the Blackfyres would be admitted to the Kingsguard, so we can be confident they were loyalists.
For Daemon Blackfyre:
- Caron
- Selmy
- Swann
These three are the principle Marcher Houses in the Stormlands (save the Dondarrions). These are houses that have long standing hatred of the Dornish, and would despise their high place in the royal family. It is likely that they declared for Daemon Blackfyre, but by the time of the Redgrass Field, Baelor had won over the Stormlands entirely, or almost entirely. Thus, either the Marcher lords stood largely alone, or perhaps one or two of them did not fight for Daemon after all.
Notable Unknown:
- Baratheon
- Tarth
- Estermont
- Morrigen
- Connington
No Great Houses fought for Daemon Blackfyre, so the Baratheons were likely to be loyal or neutral. Others would have followed their lead for the most part, but there would’ve likely be an exception or two.
Dorne
For King Daeron II:
- Martell
- Dayne
- Manwoody
The Martells were part of the Royal Family, Daeron II’s wife was Princess Mariah Martell. Prince Maekar, “the Anvil” was likewise married to Dyanna Dayne. Princess Elaena Targaryen’s 3rd husband, and most beloved, was Ser Michael Manwoody. This makes it likely that House Manwoody was on good terms with the Targaryens after the war, so we assume they were loyalists.
For Daemon Blackfyre:
- Yronwood
- Wyl
House Yronwood was said to “ride with Bittersteel in 3 of the Rebellions”. It is confirmed that they were not in the 2nd, and Bittersteel was not in the 5th. That leaves the 1st, 3rd and 4th. They were the primary House in all of Dorne until the coming of Nymeria, and the titles the Lords of Yronwood take reflect this ancient pride. They would’ve loved to take back Dorne from the Martells.
House Wyl is a notorious house and vassal to the Yronwoods. This is the same House that cut the hand off Orys Baratheon, hung Prince Aemon the Dragonknight in a pit above vipers, and taunted King Baelor as he walked past. They were likely involved in treachery that slew King Daeron I the Young Dragon. Given all this enmity with House Targaryen and the attitude of their overlords the Yronwoods, it’s a safe bet that there were not loyalists.
Notable Unknown
- Fowler
- Blackmont
- Uller
- Santagar
- Jordayne
- Gargalen
- Vaith
The Fowlers hate the Yronwoods, who fought for Daemon, but they also hate the Tarlys who probably fought for Daemon. The Houses farther from Sunspear would be among the more likely to dislike the Martells, while a house like Santagar, close by (and vassals of), would likely stay loyal.
The Reach
For King Daeron II:
- Caswell
- Webber
- Tyrell
- Rowan
- Ashford
Interestingly, House Caswell seems to have been loyal in the First Rebellion, only to harbor Blackfyre sympathies during the Second. The reasons for this are unknown.
Refer to the podcast episode for our thoughts on House Tyrell. Steven Attewell has a great theory on how Leo “Longthorn” Tyrell may have been playing a Tywin/Lord Walder wait-and-see who gains the upper hand approach…
House Webber’s was loyal per The Sworn Sword. House Rowan is seen to be on excellent terms with the throne during the same time period.
House Ashford hosted the tourney seen in the Hedge Knight. It is unlikely house so recently in rebellion would’ve had so many Targaryen Princes appear, especially as they seemed on very good terms with Lord Ashford.
For Daemon Blackfyre:
- Peake
- Ball
- Strickland
- Costayne
- Ambrose
- Osgrey
- Vyrwel
- Bulwer
- Cockshaw
- Risley
- Cuy
- Tarly
Here’s the best example of ambitious types we spoke of in Daemon’s episode: House Peake. They have a long history of aiming high, most notably during the Dance of the Dragons. They’re the ones who snagged the Manderly castle after encouraging the King of the Reach to drive them out. Lord Gormon seems to be cut from the same cloth. He commanded the Rebel center during the Battle of Redgrass field and personally slew Hand of the King Lord Hayford in the process. Lord Gormon lost two of his ancestral castles, leaving him with Starpike.
A descendant of his rebelled and slew King Maekar after the King put Starpike under siege.
Some of these houses may not sound familiar, or formidable, but that might be because they were on the losing side. Losers get punished, so some of these names may have loomed quite a bit larger a century ago. Some of the houses listed there aimed to fight for Daemon II in the Second Rebellion, making it likely but not certain that they also fought for Daemon I.
House Ball is Fireball’s house. House Ambrose saw the famous knight Ser Aubrey Ambrose pledge to Daemon Blackfyre. Young Lord Alyn Cockshaw was a close confidant (and probable lover) of Daemon II, and knew all of Daemon’s sons as a child, as they grew up together. House Osgrey of course, is our main source of information for the Battle of Redgrass Field.
House Vyrwel may have been playing double agent in the Second Rebellion. There is some evidence that they were working with Bloodraven. This may have been an attempt to get back into the good graces of the Iron Throne.
House Tarly, as a marcher house, would be likely to fight for Daemon Blackfyre to stop the Dornish encroachment.
Also:
- Hightower
- Oakheart
Both of these notable houses supported both sides in unknown fashion.
Notable Unknown:
- Beesbury
- Florent
- Fossoway
- Shield Islands houses
- Merryweather
- Redwyne
- Roxton
- Serry
Often, houses follow the lead of their primary overlord. House Beesbury is vassal to Hightower, but the Hightowers played both sides.
House Florent has long sought to claim Highgarden, we hear of it in ASOIAF in current times even. This would’ve seemed like a golden opportunity to become Lords Paramount of the Reach. A perfect example of a “second best tier” house trying to move up, as discussed in the podcast.
The Shield Islands houses, like the Farmans of the West, may have been too concerned with the Ironborn to play a major role.
House Fossoway had not yet split into the Green and Red apple branches, but a Ser Derek “the Bad Apple” Fossoway was one of the Band of Nine along with Maelys the Monstrous. Perhaps the connection to the Blackfyres goes back to the First Rebellion.
Crownlands
For King Daeron II:
House Darklyn of Duskendale is noted for it’s historic loyalty, putting *seven* knights into the Kingsguard over the years. This truth is obscured by the more recent Defiance of Duskendale.
There’s a chance House Velaryon fought for Daemon Blackfyre. Daemon’s grandmother Daenaera would have only the barest relation to Daeron II. Though Oakenfist (d171-176) was the one who arranged Viserys’ release from Lys, that may not matter. Oakenfist was also Daeron I’s admiral, and his own descendants may have preferred to back the man who didn’t make peace with Daeron I’s murderers. Aegon IV arguably tried to have Oakenfist killed by repeatedly sending him on dangerous missions. Eventually, it worked.Hayford
The Crownlands are sworn to the Iron Throne, thus this region would be mostly or near-entirely for Daeron II. But this is not 100% certain.
Lord Hayford became Hand of the King during the war, and was stalwart. Yet apart from Hayford, we hear of the Crownlanders not at all on the Redgrass Field…
See a house missing? Let us know and we’ll add our best guess!
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